John Hoare : Irish Rebel
John Hoare was originally from County Wexford, Ireland, although the exact details of his birthdate and birthplace remain unconfirmed.
Wexford is located in the southeast region of Ireland, in the province of Leinster. The county played a significant role in Irish independence, especially the 1798 uprising, which is celebrated and preserved to this day. It is noteworthy that John Hoare was known as one of the “United Irishmen,” a group of Irish nationalists who sought independence from British rule.
Researcher Graham Lewis has provided information that John Hoare enlisted in the Royal Navy at the Port of London on September 7, 1795. Initially, he served on the HMS Royal William and soon transferred to HMS Impregnable. In 1796, he moved to HMS Defiance. On board the HMS Defiance, Hoare was one of a group of people found guilty of their involvement in a naval mutiny. The trial was held from September 8 to 14, 1798, with the trial records held by the UK Public Records Office PRO ADM 1/5347. Although the records are being sought, if anyone has a copy they are willing to share, it would be appreciated.
The Report of Committee of Secrecy of the House of Commons: Ordered to be printed 15th March, 1799 (available as a Google eBook) provides some information about the court martial held on board The Gladiator and The Cambridge.
This document is an abstract of the proceedings of a court martial that took place on board His Majesty’s Ship Gladiator in Portsmouth Harbour between September 14 and 16, 1798, with Captain John Holloway as President and seven other Captains comprising the Court. The Court was convened to try twenty-three sailors and one marine from the HMS Defiance, Captain Theophilus Jones, who were accused of holding mutinous assemblies on board the ship and taking an oath to overthrow the government.
One of the accused sailors was John Hoare, who was known to be one of the “United Irishmen”. All the evidence presented in court pointed to the guilt of the prisoners to a greater or lesser degree. The Court passed the sentence of death on nineteen of the accused, including Hoare. However, in consideration of some circumstances, the Court recommended leniency for eight of the accused, including Hoare, on the condition of transportation to a penal colony. Two others, James Moor and James Lawlers, were sentenced to receive 300 lashes each and one year’s solitary confinement in the Marmalfea. Two more, Owen McCartey and Michael Foy, were sentenced to receive 100 lashes each and six months solitary confinement. Patrick Hynes was sentenced to one year’s solitary confinement, and John Donally was acquitted.
This document provides a unique insight into the naval mutinies that took place during this period, which were often linked to political unrest and dissatisfaction with living conditions and wages. It also sheds light on the role of the “United Irishmen” in the rebellion against British rule in Ireland. The trial records mentioned in this document are held by the UK Public Records Office PRO ADM 1/5347, and may provide further details about the mutiny and the fate of the accused.
ABSTRACT of Proceedings at a Court Martial on Board His Majesty’s Ship Gladiator in Portsmouth Harbour between the 14 and 16 of September 1798 Sunday excefted Captain JOIIM HOLLOWAY President who with Seven other Captains composed the Court. This Court was assembled for the trial of John Brady, William Lindsay, John Hopkins, James Moor, Chistopher Mahane, Terence Dunn, Thomas Jourdaine, James Cannon, David Keed, 1 homac Derbyfhire, Nicholas Ryan, Cornelius Callaghan, Owen McCartey, Richard Kennedy, Thomas LufEn, Patnck Dcvoy, John Uonally, Peter McGuire, John Hoare, Edward Swinney, Patrick Hynes, Michael Foy, Michael Kelly and Edward M Laughlin seamen and James Lawlers private marine belonging to his Majesty’s ship Defiance Captain Theophilus Jones for having held mutinous afiemblies on board the laid ship at which an oath to the following purport was taken I swear to be true to the free and United Irishmen who are now fighting our cause against tyrants and oppressors, and to defend their rights to the last drops of my blood and to keep all secret, and I do agree to carry the ship into Brest the next time the ship looks out ahead at sea and to kill every officer and every man that shall hinder us, except the master and to hoist a green ensign with a harp on it and afterwards to kill and destroy all the Protestants. All the evidence clearly mewed the guilt of the prisoners in a greater or lesser degree and the court having heard what they had to offer in their defence parted lenience of death on Brady, Lindsay, Hopkins, Mahane, Dunn, Jourdaine, Cannon, Reed, Derbyfhire, Ryan, Callaghan, Kennedy, Laffin, Devoy, McGuire, Hoare, Swinney, Kelly and M Laughlin. But in confederation of some circumstances Hopkins, Mahane, Dunn, Jourdaine, Cannon, Devoy, McGuire, and Hoare were recommended by the court for mercy on condition of transportation amd Moor and Lawlefa were sentenced to receive 300 lashes each and one year’s solitary confinement in the Marmalfea. Mccartneyy and Foy were sentenced to receive 100 lashes each and six months solitary confinement. Hynes was sentenced to year’s solitary confinement and Donally was acquitted. APPENDIX No 20 91
Sorry if that was all a bit difficult to read. I’ll try and make it clearer.
There’s a brief mention of the incident in the “Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette” of Thursday 23 August 1798.
In the latter ship 45 United Irishmen are brought in irons for mutiny. The court martial on eight of the UNSURE crew will finish to-day.
Along with some other newspapers, The Derby Mercury of Thursday 20 Sep 1798 records the following….
On Saturday the trials of several sailors belonging to the Defiance for Mutiny and Sedition commenced on board the Gladiator, at Portsmouth. The following is the oath, the taking, and administering of which constitutes the substance of the charge against them : — “I swear to be true to the free and United Irishmen who are now fighting our cause against tyrants and despots, and to defend their rights to the last drops of my blood and to keep all secret, and I do agree to carry the ship into Brest the next time the ship looks out ahead at sea and to kill every officer and every man that shall hinder us, except the master and to hoist a green ensign with a harp on it and afterwards to kill and destroy all the Protestants
According to the historian, Patrick O’Farrell, there was a great deal of excitement about the arrival in Australia of these rebel convicts.
The 1798-1803 rebels were a colonial cynosure: their fellow Irish hero-worshiped them; the authorities feared them and exaggerated their numbers and influence”. He tempers this, though, by arguing “in a strictly nationalist sense, political rebels among the Irish convicts seem relatively few; about 1.5 percent, that is, less than 600 in the entire history of transportation, of whom nearly 500 arrived in the very early years of the colony, up to 1806”. “The most prominent rebels were often men of some previous substance, educated, high principled and quite often Protestants”. He also says, “These rebels took their land grants, conformed and prospered. They adopted a low public profile in response to their seditious reputations and devoted themselves to work, and those good lives.
John Hoare’s life took a difficult turn when he was imprisoned on Norfolk Island, known for its harsh conditions, under the regime of Captain Foveaux. He remained there from November 1802 to June 15, 1804. Upon his return to New South Wales, he was placed on the Government Farm at Castle Hill. This was just a few months after the failed uprising by mostly Irish convicts at the same location. Subsequently, Hoare worked as a laborer for John Llewellyn, who had arrived in Australia as part of the NSW Corps, on his Hawkesbury River property.
Elizabeth Love : Early immigrant
John Hoare and Elizabeth Emelia Love were married on July 10, 1809, at St. Phillip’s Church in Sydney (V1809 881 3A). Elizabeth was born in Hampshire, England, and arrived in Australia as an infant with her parents, John and Martha Love, on the Third Fleet. She spent her early years in the area around The Rocks in Sydney Cove before her family presumably moved to the Field of Mars, where she met John Hoare.
Initially, John and Elizabeth lived in the Field of Mars before moving to the Campbelltown Districts of Airds and Appin, where they farmed with the assistance of convict labor. The birth records of their children indicate that they continued to live in the area for some time.
By 1828, John and Elizabeth had increased their land holdings to 90 acres, which they had cleared and fully cultivated. They also had eight cattle. However, it is unknown how they spent their later years and ended up being buried in Dapto. It is possible that they moved closer to their younger children, some of whom had married people in Wollongong.
Researcher, Kath Raulings mentions in a comment below she believes John Hore “had land at Illawarra and was granted a convict groom and farm servant. In 1839, both father and son had land at Dapto. See 1839 NSW Gov Gaz. pp.1353, 1378 and again in 1840 pp. 152, 171, 425 and 706. Some of these entries also relate to land in Murrumbidgee district (possibly Cumberoona) and at Camden. I have a feeling I remember seeing in one of the gazettes that there was some land transferred or given between the Hores and Rixons around Dapto. Hope this might help.”.
John died on April 25, 1862 (6420/1862), while Elizabeth died on March 3, 1878 (448/1878), although the NSW BDM spells her name Hore. They are buried together and the inscription on the headstone reads…
Sacred to the memory of Mr John Hore, a native of County Wexford Ireland, who departed this life, 25th April 1862, also of Elizabeth Hore, native of Hampshire England, died March 3rd 1878 aged 96 years.
On Sunday last the remains of Mr. John Hoare, a colonist of 64 years standing, a great portion ofwhich he spent in this district, were conveyed totheir final resting place, followed by between twohundred and fifty and three hundred mourners. So large an attendance shows the high estimation inwhich the deceased was held, and must have beenhighly gratifying to the numerous relatives that hehas left behind him.Illawarra Mercury, April 29, 1862
According to Elizabeth’s newspaper obituary, which was kindly supplied by Lesley Ford and Jan Johnson from an Illawarra Paper dated 1878, Elizabeth spent several years living in Sydney with her daughter Ann (then named Ann Phibbs) after John’s death. It can be presumed that Elizabeth resided at Ann’s home on Castlereagh Street, which was located not far from what is now Central Station.
In the following issue of the 5th instant, a notice appeared, announcing the death of another lady, whose life had almost xxxxxx? a century, and whose connection with this district has been long and intimate. We allude to Mrs. John Hore, relict of the late Mr. John Hore, and mother of Mr. Charles Hore, of West Dapto. The deceased lady reached the great age of 96 years. Her residence in this colony, was about coeval with the history of its colonization, she being only ten years of age when she arrived in Port Jackson with her parents. She therefore constituted one of the population of Australia 86 years out of the 90 years of it’s existence as a British Territory. In her last days, few if any other persons in this or any of these colonies could say so much in this respect. She was one of the pioneers of Australian colonization in the true sense of the term, having whitnessed the rise of this great dependency of the British Empire from a state of absolute barbarism to its present proud and important position as a civilized community and unexampled field for enterprise.
Mrs. Hore resided many years in this district with her husband and a large family, of which Mr. Charles is the younger member. She survived her husband several years, however, and for some considerable time past she resided at Sydney with one of her daughters, Mrs. Phibbs. It was only latterly that her health, which hitherto had been of the most robust character, began to fail, and finally, on Sunday 7, the 3rd instant, her spirit passed away from it’s earthly tenement, which from sheer decay of nature, had become incapable of longer retaining it. Her remains were brought per steamer, on the following Monday evening, and on being landed at Wollongong were conveyed to St. Francis Xaviers Church, where, in the absence of ther Rev. Dean Flanagan, the Rev. P O’Reilly of Dapto, performed the usual ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church on such occasions. In the forenoon of the same day, the funeral cortege proceeded to the Catholic cemetery, West Dapto, where the remains were deposited with the sacred dust of some of the relatives of the deceased who had gone before. The Rev. P O’Reilly officiated on this occasion also, and the mourners included friends of the deceased from Sydney, in addition to Mr. Charles Hore, and several members of his family.
Elizabeth’s death was also reported in the Sydney Morning Herald on Thursday 14 September 1882…
HORE – March 8, at the residence of her daughter, Mrs Ann Phibbs, Elizabeth, mother of John Hore, Esq, Melbourne, aged 96.
The other members of the Hore/Hoare family buried at West Dapto, according to this site are.
Hore, Charles Patrick, d. 14 Feb 1900, age: 1year 10mths, Beloved s/o Charles & Clara Hore Accidently Drowned, Sec. Old Grave Yard, #15
Hore, Charles, b. 1869, d. 24 Nov 1931, age: 62years, Our Lady of Perpetual Help Pray For Him Also Our Dear Mother, Sec. Old Grave Yard, #16
Hore, Clara Bridget, b. 1881, d. 2? Nov 1961, age: 80years Our Dear Mother, Sec. Old Grave Yard, #17
Hore, Elizabeth Agnes, b. 1875, d. 06 Oct 1944, age: 69years, Beloved w/o William, Sec. Sth Row C, #3
Hore, Elizabeth, b. 1782 Hampshire England, d. 3 Mar 1878, age: 96years Sec. Old Grave Yard, #118
Hore, John, b. Wexford, Ireland, d. 25 Apr 1862, age: 8?Years Sec. Old Grave Yard, #117
Hore, Margaret, b. Co. Limerick Ireland, d. 4 Mar 1908, age: 79years Sec. Old Grave Yard, #128
Hore, William A, b. 1901, d. 16 Feb 1955, age: 54years, 2572 Private 14 Australian General Hospital. Beloved, s/o The Late Charles & Mrs C.B. Hore of Shellharbour, Sec. Sth Row F, #10
Hore, William, b. 1866, d. 21 Jun 1956, age: 90years Sec. Sth Row C, #4
Ann Hoare was born on May 9, 1810, in Airds, NSW. She married William Rixon, the eldest son of convicts James Rixon and Amelia Goodwin, on January 23, 1826, at St. Peter’s Campbelltown when she was only fourteen years old. The couple initially lived at the Field of Mars before moving to the Campbelltown Districts of Airds and Appin, where they farmed with convict labor. In November 1839, around the time of the birth of their daughter Sarah, William and Ann moved to Spring Creek, where they managed “The Stringy Bark Inn,” a property owned by William’s brother, Benjamin. William also had other hotel interests in the area.
William Rixon passed away on May 28, 1847, in Campbelltown. After his death, Ann married twice more. On June 11, 1848, she married Owen Dunlaghan, who died in January 1851. A year later, on January 24, 1852, Ann married William Henry Phibbs, with whom she had one child, William Jordan Phibbs. William Henry Phibbs died on November 24, 1863. In 1882, Ann resided at 362 Castlereagh Street, Sydney, on the east side between Goulburn and Campbell Street.
Ann passed away on August 8, 1895, at 9 Denison St Woollahra, Sydney, and was buried at the Roman Catholic Cemetery, Waverly. If she had lived a little longer, she would have inherited one thousand pounds from her younger brother, as she was named in his will. Her brother left her the sum of one thousand pounds, and if she predeceased him, the same amount would have been given to her son, William Jordan Phibbs.
For more information about their lives, please see the biography page of William and Ann.
John Hoare was born on September 17, 1813. He married Elizabeth Waite on January 1, 1839, at All Saints Church in Sutton Forest. According to researcher Judy Roberts, John Hoare Jr. received advice from Hamilton Hume, who owned a property at Lake George, about the best farming lands along the route he had already taken. As a result, John and Hume set off to acquire land for themselves. John Waite, Elizabeth’s father, after traveling south by bullock wagon for six months with some younger women riding on horseback, formed the Bungil run in 1836 for his daughter Elizabeth and son-in-law, John Hoare Jr., who then swapped it in 1838 with Spalding and Cobham for the Wagra (now Wymah) run on the opposite side of the river, which was the stream that had been named the Hume River and later changed to the Murray River.
In addition to holding the Wagra license in 1840, John Hoare Jr. purchased the Talgarno lease in 1848, the Turramia lease in 1848, and the Bethanga lease in 1855. By the time he bought Cumberoona on the north bank of the Murray River opposite Talgarno in 1859 for 12,000 pounds, he had a very valuable pastoral empire in the Upper Murray. Around 1870, he sold Talgarno, Bethanga, and Turramia and confined his attention to Cumberoona.
Elizabeth died at Ellerslie, East St Kilda, Melbourne on February 6, 1895. John died later that same year on October 15, 1895, in St Kilda.
Thanks to Judy, you can also download his will. Photograph courtesy Kellie Jones. Thanks also to Kellie for photographs of the joint gravesite of John and Elizabeh Hore, as well as the individual graves of Elizabeth Hore and John Hore.
Elizabeth Hoare was born on April 18, 1815, in Airds, New South Wales. She married James Rixon, the son of convicts James Rixon and Amelia Goodwin, on August 27, 1833, at St. Peter’s, Campbelltown. The couple moved to Taylor’s Flat, now known as Cathcart in the Towamba Valley area of S.E. NSW sometime between 1834 and 1838, according to the birth records of their children. The reason for their move is unknown, but it is presumed that they were granted some land.
James Rixon went on to become a prominent hotelier, opening the first hotel in Eden and becoming the early hotel licensee in Bega. He was the first of the family to visit the family hotel (now the museum) when it was known as Rixons Family Hotel. Elizabeth and James had a large family, as noted by Terry Hore on his website.
James Rixon passed away in Bega on September 12, 1873 (3335/1873), while Elizabeth died in Sydney on September 13, 1882 (2069/1882).
Martha Hoare was born around 1817 in Cowpastures, New South Wales. On May 13, 1833, she married John Robinson, who was born on April 22, 1798, in Sydney. The birth records of their children indicate that they lived a transitory life over the next decade, with children born in various places such as Dapto (1838), Greenland near Nimmitabel (1843), Nudgee near Cape Howe (1847), Narraburraba (1850), and Twofold Bay (1852), before finally settling at Honeysuckle, near Wyndham, NSW. John Robinson purchased the first 52 acres of land on the Honeysuckle Flats in 1853 after recognizing the land’s potential for farming. (Reference: Wyndham Celebrates).
The Monaro Pioneers website records a great deal of information about Martha, John, and their children. John Robinson passed away on June 8, 1860, at Honeysuckle and was buried on June 11 in Eden, NSW. Three years later, Martha married Adam Lewis on April 20, 1863, at Pambula, NSW. Unfortunately, Martha passed away on July 29, 1873, at “Honeysuckle,” and was buried at Eden on August 3, 1873. The cause of her death was attributed to “decay of nature” for 19 months, with Adam Lewis, her second husband, listed as the informant.
Andrew Hore, the son of John Hore and Elizabeth Waite, was born on May 25, 1820, in Airds, New South Wales. In 1845, he married Jessie Finlayson in Yass, New South Wales. Over the course of his life, Andrew was involved in various business ventures, including running a store in Albury, New South Wales. He was also a grazier and owned several properties in the area.
Andrew Hore passed away on April 17, 1890, at Mugwee, near Albury, New South Wales. He was survived by his wife Jessie and their children. A photograph of Andrew Hore is available, courtesy of Kellie Jones.
Sarah Hoare was born in around 1821 in Minto, NSW. On June 15, 1840, she married James Seymour at St Francis Xavier Catholic Church in Wollongong, NSW. Terry Hore’s website documents the children of Sarah and James. The birth records of their children indicate that they mostly lived in the Illawarra district, with children born in Dapto (1841), Shellharbour (1849), Sydney (1854), and Shellharbour again (1855). Unfortunately, Sarah died in 1862, possibly due to childbirth, as the BDM records the birth of their child, Joseph at Kiama in 1862 (8432/1862). Interestingly, Sarah’s death record suggests that her mother, Elizabeth Love/Hoare, may have been known as Betsy, a common shortening of the name. After Sarah’s death, James married Ellen (Elizabeth?) Condle (widow) at the Presbyterian Church, Elizabeth Street, Sydney on June 18, 1863 (482/1863). James Seymour died on February 15, 1867, in Shellharbour.
William Hoare was born on February 26, 1824, at Minto, New South Wales. He married Rebecca Margaret Seymour, also known as Margaret Gralis, on February 14, 1848, at St Francis Xavier Church in Wollongong, NSW. William and Margaret had several children, including Thomas, William, John, Rebecca, and Mary. The birth records for their children indicate that they lived in various locations throughout NSW, including Wollongong, Dapto, and Jamberoo.
William was a farmer and lived most of his life in the Wagra area. He was involved in the local community and held positions such as justice of the peace and trustee of the Wagra School. William passed away on May 28, 1890, at Wagra, and is buried in the Wagra Cemetery.
Margaret’s headstone can be seen here
Mary Hoare was born on July 10, 1826, at Glenlee in Menangle, NSW. She married Michael O’Loughlan, who was born in Cavan, Ireland, on January 7, 1845, at St. Bedes in Appin, NSW. Mary and Michael had a large family, with birth records indicating that they mostly lived in the Appin and Campbelltown areas. Mary passed away on March 5, 1893, at Appin, where she had lived most of her life.
Bergin, who was born in Ireland around 1830, on February 12, 1854, at St John’s Roman Catholic Church in Campbelltown, NSW (V185316 99/1853). Their children’s birth records show that they initially lived in Marrickville in 1855 and then moved to Wollongong in 1857 before finally settling in Albury in 1858.
Thomas passed away on September 5, 1880, at Table Top, Albury, NSW.
Eliza Hoare was born in 1833 at Airds, NSW. She married Sampson Courtney Boyland on February 12, 1853, at Wollongong, NSW. Their eldest daughter, Elizabeth A, was born in 1853, but her birthplace is unknown. However, their sons John, Courtney, and daughter Isabella J were all born at Eden (6465/1857, 7190/1859, 7282/1861). According to researcher Kev Spink, Sampson arrived as a Bounty Immigrant from Co Antrim, Ireland, on board the ship ‘Arthur,’ arriving in Sydney in 1841. He died in March 1861 (2877/1861) after a two-year struggle with cancer.
After Sampson’s death, Eliza married Robert Redshaw on April 23, 1866. Eliza died in Bega in 1893 (3249/1893).
Charles Joseph Hoare
Charles Joseph Hoare was born on 4 July 1837 at Airds, NSW. He married Margaret Noonan on 25th June 1855 at St Francis Xavier, Wollongong. They resided in Wollongong for most, if not all, of their married lives. Charles’s parents also lived in close proximity for quite some time after moving to the district. As researcher Kath Raulings has indicated, the Hoare family had significant land holdings in the area. Charles was mentioned in the will of his brother John and granted significant land holdings in the Camden district in trust, “in trust for my brother Charles Hore and his assigns during the term of his natural life without impeachment of waste AND from and after the decease either in my lifetime or afterwards of my said brother Charles Hore TO HOLD the same in trust for his son Andrew Hore absolutely for ever.”
The birth records for Charles and Margaret’s children indicate that they lived in Wollongong, and Charles died at Moonee Ponds, Melbourne, Victoria on 12th March 1905.
* The note that 20 people on board the HMS Defiance were sentenced to hang is from “Lincoln P. Paine’s SHIPS OF THE WORLD: AN HISTORICAL HISTORICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA” (page 48). There is also a reference to this oath on p278 of “The Language of Liberty, 1660-1832: Political Discourse and Social Dynamics” By J. C. D. Clark, Published 1994 by Cambridge University Press.
* The reported oath was mentioned in the “Report of the Committee of the Secrecy of the House of Commons” ordered to be printed 15th March 1799, London 1799 (pp 72-73)
* Information about the significance of the of Irish rebels in Australia from “The Irish In Australia” by Patrick O’Farrell, University of NSW Press 1986.
* His presence on Norfolk Island is confirmed in the microfilm “The People of Norfolk Island and Van Diemen’s Land 1788-1820 and their families” by James Hugh Donohoe. He returned to NSW in 1804.
*Curiously enough, John did not receive his Certificate of Emancipation until July 15, 1811 .
The 1828 NSW Census lists John Hoare aged 50 Convict on Canada FS Settler at Airds and Elizabeth born colony aged 37. Canada (1) arrived in 1801
Children to this couple
John age 15
Elizabeth age 14
Martha age 12
Andrew age 9
Sarah aged 7
WIlliam age 5
Mary age 3
Colonial Secretary’s Papers:
HOARE, John. Of Field of Mars
1811 Jul 30 : On list of persons to receive lands in the new Districts of Airds or Appin, & in other parts of the Colony; at Airds or Appin (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p.10)
HOARE, John (Senior). Per “Canada”, 1801
1822 Jul 23: Of Lower Minto. Recommending William Ford, his assigned servant (Reel 6055; 4/1761 p.58)
1823 : Memorial (Fiche 3047; 4/1830 No.168). Reply, 6 Jun (Reel 6010; 4/3508 p.454)
1824 Sep 20: On account of wheat & maize in the possession of settlers in the Districts of Upper & Lower Minto (Reel 6061; 4/1780 p.286)
HOARE, John (Junior). Born in the Colony; son of John Hoare of Upper Minto
1823 : Memorial (Fiche 3047; 4/1830 No.169). Reply, 18 Jul (Reel 6010; 4/3508 p.679)
* The exact date and place of John Hoare’s birthplace remains unconfirmed. I recently heard from researcher, Graham Lewis who notes…
I did spend several hours in the sacristy of the big old church in Wexford Town, and also consulted several professional genealogists there for advice on further research. Basically, they could suggest no further research avenue. I had discovered just one possibility in the parish registers – which are perhaps the oldest and best preserved in all Ireland – a 1775 baptism, but not a John – a saint’s name instead, which escapes me at the moment. I was inclined to be rather dismissive of that, but the genealogists thought it could be our John – that the church would have been a Franciscan Priory in 1775 and the Franciscans were very keen on baptising in saints’ names, but these were often never used in practice by those so named! I’m still not convinced – I felt that John would likely have named one or other of his sons in similar fashion if that had been the case, and he hadn’t. So I think all that can be said is that he was recorded as John Hoare, 22, from Wexford (the latter entered in a column headed “Place and County Where Born”), when he enlisted at the Port of London, on 5 September 1795. It looks like he was enlisted on HMS Royal William that day and joined HMS Impregnable on 15 September. He moved to the HMS Defiance in August 1796.
* Thanks to Terry Hore for documenting the children of John and Elizabeth on his website.
* Marion Starr has a terrific book about Early settlers in the Cowpastures area called, “Murder, Mayhem & Misdemeanours” which contains information about John and Elizabeth. Cost is $30 plus $6 postage within Australia. Payment can be made by direct bank transfer or by cheque. Your copy will be sent as soon as payment is approved. To order your copy please contact Marion email@example.com
* Thanks to Judy Roberts for the information about John Hore Junior, including his will.
* Thanks to Kellie Jones for sharing some of the wonderful photographs, including the headstones.
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