James Laing was born in Stonehaven (a seaside town on Scotland’s north east coast) near Aberdeen, on Sunday 18 June 1815. (As reported in his newspaper obituary, though his Certificate of Freedom states he was born in 1814).
The Gazetteer of Scotland (1806) describes the town in these terms.
There is very little trade transacted at Stonehaven, it derives its principal support from the sherrif court of the county, which has its seat here. Of late, a spirit of trade has manifested itself here, and the brown linen manufacture has been introduced. The town has also received a considerable increase in its extent, from the public spirit of Mr Barclay of Urie, who has feued a large and regular village adjoining the town on his estate in the neighbouring parish of Fetteresso.
When convicted of housebreaking in 1835, he stated he was “bred of a cartwright and since 1829 has been going on voyages as a sailor between Scotland and Quebec” and that he moved to Edinburgh in May that year.
Precognition against James Laing, Addison Mitchell for the crime of theft by housebreaking 1835
James Laing, Age: 22, cartwright and sailor, Address: Edinburgh, Origin: Native of Stonehaven
Addison Mitchell, Age: 15, shoemaker, Address: Blackfriars Wynd, High Street, EdinburghNational Records of Scotland AD14/35/450
His Australian convict records (Certificate of Freedom 43/836 1836) state that he was 1.63m tall, had a dark sallow (“sickly) complexion and had brown (almost black) hair and brown eyes. He also had a small mole on the upper part of his right arm and a scar on the back of his right thumb.
On the 20th of August 1835, the court records state, he (aged twenty) and fifteen year old Addison Mitchell conducted break and enters on two houses in Elm Row, Edinburgh. The first was at the house of James Thomson on Elm Row, Edinburgh where they stole the following items: a black cloth coat; a silver snuff-box; a pair of leather gloves; two or thereby silk handkerchiefs; and two or thereby pass keys. The second was at the house of David Brown, a tailor and clothier on Elm Row, where they stole the following items: a silver watch; a silk watch ribbon; a gold ring; a gold seal; a gold key; and, belonging to David Brown’s daughter Helen, “a worsted shawl”.
The “Caledonian Mercury” of Monday 24 August, 1835 reported..
1835 High Court Indictment against Addison Mitchell and JA Laing. Theft of Housebreaking, hab rep and prev con.
ADDISON MITCHELL and JAMES LAING, present prisoners in the tolbooth of Edinburgh, you are Indicted and Accused at the instance of John ARCHIBALD MURRAY, Esquire, his Majesty’s Advocate, for his Majesty’s interest : THAT ALBEIT, by the laws of this and of every other well governed realm, THEFT, more especially when comunitted by means of HOUSEBREAKING, and by a person who is habite and repute a thief, and who has been previously convicted of theft, is a crime of an heinous nature, and severely punishable: YET TRUE IT IS AND OF VERITY, that you the said Addison Mitchell are guilty of the said crime, aggravated as aforesaid, and you the said James Laing are guilty of the said crime, aggravated by being comınitted by means of housebreaking, actors or actor, or art and part : IN SO FAR AS, on the
convicted nature, any that you the aforesaid, an Mitchell. IS AND mature, and is 20th day of August 1835, (Thursday.) or on one or other of the days of that month, or of July immediately preceding, or of September immediately following, within the house situated in Elm row, in or near Edinburgh, then and now or lately occupied by James Thomson, then and now or lately residing there, you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing did, both and each, or one or other of you, wickedly and feloniously steal, and theftuously away take,
A black cloth coat, A silver snuff-box, A pair of leather gloves, Two or thereby silk handkerchiefs, Two or thereby pass keys,
the property or in the lawful possession of the said James Thomson: FARTHER, (2.)
Time above libelled,
you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing did, both and each, or one or other of you, wickedly and feloniously break into and enter the house situated in Elm row aforesaid, then and now or lately occupied by David Brown, tailor and clothier, by open
one of the windows of said house, or in some other way to the Prosecutor unknown; and, haring thus obtained entrance into said house, you did, then and there, both and each, or one or other of you, wickedly and feloniously steal, and theftuously away take,
A silver watch, A silk watch ribbon, A gold ring, A gold seal, A gold key,
the property or in the lawful possession of Helen Brown, daughter of, and then and now or lately residing with, the said David Brown, or in the lawful possession of the said David Brown; as also
A worsted shawl,
the property or in the lawful possession of the said Helen Brown, or of Caroline Amelia Brown, daughter of the said David Brown, and now or lately residing in the Trades’ Maiden Hospital in Argyle square, in or near Edinburgh, or in the lawful possession of the said David Brown: And you the said Addison Mitchell are habite and repute a thief, and you have been previously convicted of theft : And you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing having been apprehended and taken before John Fletcher Macfarlan, Esquire, one of the magistrates of Edinburgh, you did, each of you, in his presence at Edinburgh, on the
25th day of August 1835,
respectively emit and subscribe a declaration ; and having afterwards been taken before James Donaldson, Esquire, one of the magistrates of Edinburgh, you did, each of you, in his presence at Edinburgh, on the
27th day of August 1835, respectively emit and subscribe a declaration : Which declarations, being to be used in evidence against each of you respectively by whom the same were emitted ; as also the foresaid stolen articles, or part thereof, being to be used in evidence against you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing, or one or other of you; as also extracts or certified copies of two several convictions of the crime of theft, obtained against you the said Addison Mitchell, before the police court of Edinburgh, dated respectively
8th July 1894, 16th June 1835,
being to be used in evidence against you the said Addison Mitchell, at your trial, will, for that purpose, be in due time lodged in the hands of the clerk of the High Court of Justiciary, before which you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing are to be tried, that you may respectively have an opportunity of seeing the same: ALL WHICH, or part thereof, being found proven by the verdict of an Assize, or admitted by the respective judicial confessions of you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing, before the Lord Justice-General, Lord Justice-Clerk; and Lords Commissioners of Justiciary, you the said Addison Mitchell and James Laing OUGHT to be punished with the pains of law, to deter others froin committing the like crimes in all time coming.
J. SHAW STEWART, A. D.
LIST OF WITNESSES.
1 James Donaldson, Esquire, now or lately one of the magis
trates of Edinburgh. 2 Robert Lockhart Dymock, procurator-fiscal of the city of
Edinburgh. 3 Robert Morham, now or lately clerk to Alexander Callender,
depute city clerk of Edinburgh. 4 Daniel Scrymgeour, now or lately city-officer in Edinburgh. 5 Alexander Stewart, now or lately city-officer in Edinburgh.
6 James Thomson, now or lately residing in Elm row, in or
near Edinburgh. 7 Mary Hunter or Lunardi, wife of Fortune Lunardi, now or
lately eating-house-keeper in Blackfriars’ wynd, Edin
burgh. 8 The foresaid Fortune Lunardi. 9 Walter Fraser, porter, now or lately residing in East James
street, Edinburgh. 10 George Rennie, now or lately criminal officer in the Edin
burgh police establishment. 11 David Brown, tailor and clothier, now or lately residing in
Elm row aforesaid. 12 Helen Brown, daughter of, and now or lately residing with,
the said David Brown. 13 Caroline Amelia Brown, daughter of the said David Brown,
and now or lately residing in the Trades’ Maiden Hospital,
in Argyle square, in or near Edinburgh. 14 Walter Turnbull Leitch, son of, and now or lately residing
with, John Leitch, tailor, in Antigua street, Leith Walk,
near Edinburgh. 15 James MCabe, porter, now or lately residing in Stevenlaw’s
close, High street, Edinburgh. 16 William Mulholand, now or lately general patrol in the Edin
burgh police establishment. 17 James M Levie, now or lately general patrol in the Edin
burgh police establishment. 18 John Ferguson, now or lately house-serjeant in the Edin
burgh police establishment. 19 Eric Cainpbell, now or lately criminal officer in the Edinburgh police establishment.
J. SHAW STEWART, A. D.
At conviction, the court records note that both young men had appeared before Magistrate John Fletcher on August 25 and before Magistrate James Donaldson on August 27 where some of the stolen items were presented as evidenced against them. On November 9, 1835, he was found guilty of housebreaking and was sentenced to seven years transportation. In sentencing them, the court records note that Addison Mitchell had previous convictions in Edinburgh on July 8, 1834 and June 16, 1835.
The Scotsman newspaper reported the case thus…
Mitchell was transported to Australia on the Lady Kennaway (Departure date: 2nd June, 1836 Arrival date: 12th October, 1836). The shipping records indicates on board there were 130 male convicts from the Justitia hulk at Woolwich. On 2 May 1857, Mitchell was hanged at Bathurst for the murder of William Ablett between Carcoar and Cowra. According to the court proceedings reported on this website https://timalderman.com/tag/convicts/ they had been sharing a tent together, and Mitchell killed Ablett with a hammer.
Transportation to Australia
After conviction, it looks as though James Laing spent some time imprisoned (probably on a convict hulk) at Sheerness, North Kent. Laing came to Australia on board “The John” (leaving from Sheerness) on September 30, 1836 and arriving in Sydney on February 7, 1837. By the time the ship had arrived, five of the 260 male convicts on board had died.
As reported here…https://www.jenwilletts.com/convict_ship_john_1837.htm
Charles Inches kept a Medical Journal on the voyage out however it was later lost in the shipwreck of the Medora and the journal he submitted in London was a summary……….
The prisoners generally looked in good condition at first especially those received at Sheerness from Chatham the others from Woolwich less so. It was soon found that of the 50 received from the Justitia a considerable proportion were unhealthy. The weather at the time of embarkation was exceedingly bad and severely trying to all.
Rains were almost incessant for nearly a months and gales of wind frequent. The decks above were subsequently always wet and below impracticable to be kept dry or well ventilated. We left Sheerness on the 30th September and anchored in the Downs same night. Here we were detained till the 6th October by heavy gales and contrary winds. For the next week we experienced a succession of gales and rainy weather which compelled us to sail for Falmouth where we anchored on the 13th. The morning after arrival here a prisoner James Sinclair (age 22) died. At Falmouth we were detained a week by mutiny of the crew who refused to proceed to sea in the ship. 
Twenty-one of the crew were implicated and 11 were landed and committed to the town prison for one month. Their names were Robert Gowlett, 45; Robert Colman, 25; Thomas Rosevear, 23; Peter Poor, 25; John Job, 37; Thomas Freeman, 22; Joseph Winlay, 33; George Jamieson 35; James Jones, 25; John Robins 28 and William Ralph 17.
The weather having improved our stay in this port was very beneficial to the Guard and prisoners allowing them to recover from sea sickness. By this time and shortly after several cases of intermittent fever presented all of which prisoners had come from the Justitia. On the Friday 21st October we put to sea and after a few days a case of scurvy presented in a boy who had previously laboured under this disease while in the Hulk and been much in hospital for it. Though he improved so much as to get quit of all external symptoms and to be twice discharged from the sick list he ultimately sank under it (Peter McQuade age 15).
A third fatal case of phthisis presented after being on board a fortnight. This man had been nearly twelve months in the hulk hospital for this complaint. Though he improved considerably on board, the heat of the tropics was too much and he sank rapidly. (Samuel Halford age 22). A fourth fatal case occasioned in a prisoner George Beamish age 44. Symptoms indicative of impending apoplexy presented and he sank exhausted while crossing the Equator. The fifth and last fatal case was that of Louis Gomsell a West Indian who during the voyage was always in very delicate health suffering from frequent colds coughs and debility. Chronic Bronchitis carried him off in the end just a few days from Sydney. 
Settlement in Australia
Soon after arrival, James was assigned to Francis Flanagan, who had extensive landholdings around Moruya on the NSW South Coast. It was there he met and married Isabella Mclean.
Isabella was born at Tiree, Scotland, the daughter of Allan McLean and Janet McFarlane. Before coming to Australia, the records indicate, she had been “in service” at Glasgow and could speak a little English. Aged twenty, she came to Australia with her parents and younger siblings, settled in the Broulee area (near Moruya), where her father worked as a boat-builder.
The birth records of the children of James and Isabella indicates they spent the early years of their marriage living and working on a number of properties in the Moruya district, including Duga (1843), Glenduart (1844-1847) and Shannon View (owned by Flanagan) (1850).
…before moving to Braidwood (1852) at the peak of gold mining in the area. James is recorded on the Braidwood Electoral Roll in 1863, having Freehold Land at “Oak Hills”
The quote above is currently under further investigation – see comment below by Trish Moon.
Move to Towamba
By 1860 / 1861, James and Isabella had moved to Towamba, near Eden.
As noted in the book, “Looking for Blackfellas’ Point: An Australian History of Place” by Mark McKenna, the area around Towamba had been the traditional lands of the Kudingal people.
The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday, October 8, 1860 reports land was being sold a Towamba for between three and eight poounds per are.
By the late 1880s, the Electoral Role states that James and Isabella had obtained freehold occupancy of land. Some of their children, including Donald and William also owned land at Towamba, whilst Allen owned land at nearby Bondi.
Death of James Laing
On July 29, 1890 (1890/4983), James Laing died from “a decay of nature”. He was buried on August 2, 1890 in an unmarked grave in the Towamba Cemetery. There is a reference on the State Records website to a deceased estate for a James Laing of Towamba who died 24/7/1980, and for the estate claimed 14/4/1891, so clearly there is some confusion about the dates here. I’m planning a visit to State Records at Kingsford to clarify details of the Deceased Estate for James Laing.
Mr. James LAING another old resident recently deceased left three sons and three daughters, who have all large families. The deceased was born on the day the Battle of Waterloo was fought, and although thousands of miles from his birthplace, strange to say he died while a rifle match was being shot off. ‘Bega Standard’ – 12 August, 1890
Death of Isabella McLean
On March 10, 1891 (5798/1891) Isabella also died, and was buried soon after in an unmarked grave in the Towamba Cemetery.
* William Laing was born March 4 1843 (V18434720 47/1843) at Dooga, Moruya. In 1908, The Pambula Voice noted
‘Pambula Voice’ May 15, 1908
Mr. Wm. Laing of Towamba is very ill, his trouble being epilepsy. He is a very old resident of our village.
He died August 21, 1914 at Towamba. According to Kate Clery’s oral history book about Towamba, the evidence suggests he was probably the artist responsible for the Towamba Cricket Massacre painting held at the Eden Killer Whale Museum.
On September 4, 1914, ‘The Pambula Voice’ reported…
A terrible burning fatality happened here last Thursday Aug 20th, Mr. W. LAING being the victim. The old man had been subject to taking fits for some time. He was sitting by the fire and evidently had taken a fit and fallen in, and before his brother got to his assistance, his clothing was all in flames, and he was frightfully burnt about the head and body. Assistance was soon to hand, and all that could be to ease the poor sufferer was done. Dr. Fitzhardinge was sent for and arrived shortly afterwards, but could do nothing. The unfortunate man passed away at half past six on Friday morning. The deceased was 74 years of age. Mr. Coronor Martin held an enquiry on Saturday, when a verdict of accidental death by burning was returned. The remains were interred in the Presbyterian portion of the cemetery. Mr. Forbes conducted the burial service, and Mr .Summerill had charge of the funeral arrangements.
* Ann Laing was born April 1844 (V18445145 47/1844) at Glenduart, Moruya
* Jane Laing was born September 8, 1845 (V1845593 48/1845) at Glenduart, near Moruya, NSW, She married Thomas Rixon on February 14, 1867 at Towamba. Jane died in 1919. (23510/1919)
* Allan Laing was born October 24 1847 at Glenduart, near Moruya, NSW. He married Ruth Atkins on April 25, 1882 at Bombala, NSW. He died July 22, 1929 at Towamba. According to Monaroo Pioneers, their children were Isabella (b 1883, d August 16, 1974), William Allan (b 1884), Hector (b November 8, 1886 in Delegate) James (b September 23, 1889 in Bombala), Thomas (b 1890 in Delegate), Alice (b 1890), Charles Henry (b 1894), Ada (b 1896), Ruth (b 1899) and Sarah (b 1901).
‘Magnet’ August 3, 1929
MR. ALLAN LAING
The death occurred at the home of Mr. Hector Laing, Towamba, on the night of July 22, of Mr. Allan Laing, one of the oldest and best known identities of the Towamba district in which he had resided for some 40 years. For some years he resided at Rockton before moving to Towamba. He was a brother of Mr. Donald Laing, probably the oldest mail man in the state who for years conveyed the Eden-Pericoe mail by horse coach and who has since been running the Pambula-Nethercote mail by horse and sulky and for the last several years on horseback. Other brothers are Jim (deceased) and Will. Mr. Laing who leaves a large family, all married, was a native of Moruya and was 81 years of age. Internment took place at the Presbyterian portion of Towamba cemetery. The Reverend J. Allison officiating at the graveside.
* Janet Laing was born February 2, 1850 at Shannon View, Moruya, NSW.
* Donald Laing/Lang was born January 25, 1852 at Braidwood, NSW. In 1872, he married Sarah Higgins (1872/2071). He died at Towamba in November 1932.
* Mary Ann Laing was born 1854. She married Robert Higgins in 1874. She died in 1915 at Drummoyne, Sydney, NSW.
* James Laing was born 1857 (V1857362 139/1857)
* Isabella Laing was born 1861 (7202/1861).
* Thanks to Kerrie Beers for tracking down the information about James Laing’s trial and birthplace.
* Thanks also to Ann Murray Burke for obtaining the trial records, as well as the newspaper clipping from The Sctosman. The trial records have helped fill in so much of the gap. Wonderful stuff.
* According to the Sydney Morning Herald, the property “Shannon View”, which James and Isabella lived on for a while still stands to the left off Larry’s Mountain Road. If you wish to see it head north out of Moruya along the Princes Highway and turn left at the sign for Mogendoura.”
* Mark McKenna’s “Looking for Blackfellas’ Point (An Australian History Of Place) (UNSW Press) notes the 1860s saw the largest influx of settlers into the broader Eden district (p. 162)
That decade saw the largest influx of settlers into the area, with the breakup of the large squatting runs in favour of the smaller holdings of free selectors.
Prior to this, I believe Ben Boyd had been the squatter who was in control of Towamba, as a further account in the book notes the following letter (p. 228) by J.G. Stephenson from Manly, dated October 18, 1958.
My mother was the first white child born at Towamba… on December 5, 1850… Our grandfather was in charge of Towamba for Ben Boyd, head stockmen. We believe it was the only house there then. The remains of their old cottage was across the river… old fruit trees there in our time at Towamba. Granny often told us of the wild blacks from the tablelands meeting the coastal tribes and holding corroborees on the flats where Bollman’s farm was in our time. Granny sat up all night and watched them while grandfather was away with cattle to Boydtown, all the company she had was a tame black gin.
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My mothers father was hector laing he was the son of
allan laing and ruth atkin
I have recently visited the grave site of Allan Laing in the Towamba NSW and taken a photo which I can forward to you if you are interested.
It is one of the few marked graves of the Laing family in Towamba.
What I can say about his final resting place is that it is a very peaceful spot well located under the shade of a nice green tree. One could not wish for a better or a more picturesque resting place.
There is a long list of Laing members who served in various wars on the Towamba War Memorial.
I am currently trying to locate the place where James and Isabella were buried so that I can have a proper and fitting headstone put in place.
There are a number of the Laing family members buried on a property at 2293 Towamba Rd, this property was in the family until around 1993. I am also trying to find out their names so that this spot can be clearly marked and identified.
The homestead where James first worked “Shannon View” is still standing and in reasonable shape (constructed in the 1820’s). It is located on the corner of the Princes Highway and Larrys Mountain Road Moruya. I also have a photo of the old homestead.
Glendurat the adjoining property where James also worked has been subdivided into smaller blocks of about 5 acres.
If you want to contact me, my email is email@example.com
Hi Reg, if you are willing to share any of your photographs of the area, including the Glenduart photograph, I would be very keen to hear from you and would obviously attribute your contribution on this site. James
Hi Julie, great to hear from you. I have a feeling Hector and Allan both get a fair mention in the Kate Clery book about Towamba which is EXCELLENT. I’ve been to Towamba once and thought it was a very beautiful place. And it sounds like the people who lived there were a tough bunch. My branch of the family are VERY interesting to say the least. Hopefully we can exchange info about the Laings as we go about research. James
Hi James ,i did get a hold of Kate Clancy’s book wow it is great , Hector laing my grandfather and his family all lived around the Bombala ,delegate area ..where i grew up a s a kid i have really enjoyed reading your reasearch and amazed to read the actual items that my great great grandfather stole
I think I may have discovered James Laing’s native place, a kind Scot pointed me in the right direction.
A search in the NAS catalogue found
1835 Precognition against James Laing, Age 22, cartwright & sailor, Address Edinburgh, Origin: Native of Stonehaven for the crime of theft by housebreaking.
Stonehaven is in the ancient county of Kincardineshire, only 24 kms south of Aberdeen.
I am told a cartright & rough carpenter are much the same thing, the sailor bit threw me but Stonehaven has a lovely harbour, anything is possible.
So it seems James was living in Edinburgh when he committed his crime of theft by housebreaking. He may have had an accomplice as Addison Mitchell, Age 15, shoemaker, Address: Blackfriars Wynd, High Street Edinburgh is accused with him.
This looks really good. I’ve been searching for a while to find something definitive. I noticed there’s an Addison Mitchel who turns up in Bathurst in 1857 on a list of people sentecned to hang for a murder! I’ll keep hunting for confirmation, but I reckon you’ve found gold.
I found a report in the Scotsman Newspaper regarding the preceedings of the Justiciary Court for 9th Nov., unfortunately it doesn’t give any more detail.
THE SCOTSMAN : Wednesday 11.11.1835 : On Monday the court met for the first time in the new Justiciary Court House…5th before the court .. Addison Mitchell & James Laing were next bought up, charged with two acts of theft, one of them committed by means of housebreaking, aggrivated in the case of Mitchell, by his being habit & repute, & previously convicted of theft. The prisoners having pleaded guilty, Mitchell was sentenced to 14 years; & Laing to 7 years transportation.
Exactly at 3 O’clock the court adjourned till next day having disposed of 11 cases in 5 hours.
Addison Mitchell was sent to the colony on ship Lady Kennaway in 1836. He received his T/L in 1845. He married Bridget Macarty in 1855 at St Phillips Sydney with no issue that I can find. Addison was hung at Bathurst in 1857 aged 35 for murder.
It seems the only way to get James trial papers is to hire a researcher in Scotland as NAS won’t undertake the work even with relevant paper numbers for OS clients.
Just found your site- Well done.
We share a GGG grandfather James Laing-Convict. A cousin visited Bombala recently and met up with some wonderful locals who provided photos and great verbal accounts.
Love the depth of your research. Look forward to ploughing through it and sharing some information.
Hi David you are also a cousin to me then James Laing is also my ggg father.
i grew up in Bombala my mothers father was Hector Laing
To help fill in some gaps;
My grandparents were Arthur Laing and Rachael Koerber.
They had, I believe, two children Victor Vincent and Thelma.
Victor married Beryl Una Parker (daughter of R.A.Parker of Eden). Beryl died tragically around 1946 (buried in South Sydney cemetry). Victor died mid to late sixties at Altona Vic, he was mid seventies.
Victor and Beryl had three children.
Kevin Victor Laing (Grays Point, NSW) born Pambula Hospital 241142 (two children, son Greg and daughter Allison)
Reginald Arthur Laing (St Ives NSW), born Pambula Hospital 081143 (two sons John and Murray)
Beverly Lynette Laing born Pambula Hospital 080845 (now deceased, no children)
Thelma married Aubrey Newlyn and had four daughters, June (now deceased), Gwen, Pamela and Nolene
Hi Reginald, thanks for filling in some of the gaps. James
James Laing was gggg grandfather of my husband, through James’ son Donald,Archibald, Albert and then Keith ‘Jim’. We have not long started our family history journey and love to find other ‘relies’ doing the same.. Thanks for the info.. all helps
Ted and Beau
Came across the Laing family information will surfing the net. There is definitely a lot of history here. Thanks for putting it together and making it so accessible. My father was Donald Laing son of Donald William Laing and Charlotte. I have had little or no contact with side of my family so it is exciting to see all of the relatives that are out there. Happy New Year
Delighted to see more information on the Laing family since I looked on your site last- I am hoping to go to Archives in Edinburgh in next month or so and will look up James’s court case – I am in the midst of putting together my family tree being Lawless/Laing –
Hi Ann, I just noticed your post. I’m hoping your trip was/is going well. James
my grandfather is Hector laing
Hi James I am chasing McLEAN also Marian McLEAN who was born in 1842 (Goulburn county Argyll) parents listed as Allan and Janet McLean. Can you link this girl into your line at all?? She married a Lachlan ROBERTSON in 1863 Goulburn Many thanks Judy
Hi Marian, I’m unaware of any link, though it would be fascinating if she was a child born here in Australia. I don’t had the death certificates for either Alan or Janet, as they would presumably have listed a daughter called Marian. If she was born and married someone at Goulburn, though, it sounds like it may have been another family, as Alan and Janet (mine) spent their time on the South Coast. Checking the BDM, I couldn’t find a Marian McLean born in 1842, though I note there’s a Margaret born to Allan and Janet in 1844 V18442032 28/1844. If anyone writes in with further info, I’ll pass on. Good luck. James
Very interesting !! ,M y g g grandfather was James Laing and it is fascinating to read about him My father was Hector Laing, Julie Rands is my daughter and I have 9 other children. Thank you for giving me more of my history !! Muriel Russo,nee Laing
Hi Muriel, I was just looking at Kate Clery’s site and noticed a picture of you there. http://www.towambavalleyhistory.bravepages.com/laingpage.htm
Hi Julie and Muriel, great to hear from you both. Yes, the story of James Laing is fascinating. It was wonderful to see the court records and the newspaper clipping thanks to Ann, and of course all of the other great work done by everyone. And yes, Kate’s book about Towamba is fantastic! James
Hi James, I’m another gg grand-daughter of James Laing, my father was Hector and I’m a sister to Muriel Russo, and aunt of Julie. Thank you for a great informative site, it’s fascinating !!
my grandparenst are james laing and dora crawford. my mother is freda liang. im amazed to see how many relatives i have that i havent had the pleasure of meeting.
and it was great to see the photo of my mother freda as well as my aunty lexie and grandfather james on the horses.
i would love to know who has the original photo.
Hi Mariea, I suggest contacting Kate Clery who lives in Towamba, as she would know more about the source of the photographs. Cheers, James
thankyou james. do have an email address for kate.
hi Mariea ,I have the original photos of your mother,Lexie,and james on the horses..my mum had them and gave them to me to send copies to Kate Cleary
hi julie. would it be possible to get a copy of the photo. and do you have any more of my mother. im willing to pay.
and i would love to get a cop of kates book.
mariea here is kates email address
firstname.lastname@example.org and you most certainly can have a copy of the photos i will get them copied next week…email me your home address and i will post them to you..
my email is email@example.com
thankyou so much julie.
it wont let me email you. if you email me first i will be able to reply. firstname.lastname@example.org.
My name is Trish Moon and I contacted you 10 years ago. I have recently revisited your blog and
I think that the James Laing at Braidwood is not “our” James Laing. A James Laing married Jael Bassingthwaite in Braidwood in 1845 and lived there for the rest of his life. James died in 1903 and Jael died in 1889 – they are both buried in the Braidwood Cemetery. It seems that both have become the one James Laing but they are definitely different men and not related. Information on – line backs this up. I don’t believe that James ever left Towamba and went to Braidwood.
For your information.
Hi Trish, lots to think about. So I have ammended the text above. Would love to chat with you further. James
Fabulous Blog James
My grandfather was Alans son Charles and I have fond memories of delivering groceries in a T model Ford to the farms around Tenterfield. I have devoted some time to establishing the Wiki entries in this branch of our family but so little time though. It would be great if anyone can contribute.
Hi David, good to hear from you. What’s the link to the wiki?
I am the G G Granddaughter of Robert Elliott and Sarah Laing.
My G Grandmother was Jean Isabelle Lane nee Elliott who had my Grandfather William Hooper to William A Hooper (they never married).
My Grandfather married Robyn Dreis and had my Mother Deborah Milne nee Hooper. She married David Milne who then had Me, Tamie Cooper nee Milne.
Sarah Annie born 11/3/1857she was the Daughter of Donald jr (son of Donald sr to Sarah Higgins) and Johann Whitaker