Radio Days Europe 2013 – Day 1

Sam Cavanagh, Hamish & Andy Show speaks at Radio Days Europe

There was a terrific response in the room to the talk given by fellow Australian, Sam Cavanagh. Sam is the Executive Producer of the Hamish & Andy Show. At the heart of his talk was an idea around how the program team treated their audience. As he spoke, with a great deal of passion, there was a real sense of excitement in the room around the idea of seeing your audience as “fans”, not “listeners.”

Many radio stations, he argued, saw their audience merely as “listeners”, whereas the Hamish & Andy Show came from the approach of seeing their audience as “fans”. Once you see your audience in that way, he argued, you can actually get closer to them, as they become more involved in what you do.

He gave some terrific examples of where the audience came along for some wonderful promotions, including one where Hamish & Andy attended something like forty family parties (from babies to adults, from christenings to “How To Host A Murder” parties), and one where they brought out Sylvester Stalone’s brother (who was a singer in the 1970s) to tour. Sam explained “we could have made it free, but we charged everyone a token amount, five bucks, so they felt like they had an investment in it”.

Susan Marjetti . CBC Radio Canada speaks at Radio Days Europe

Susan Marjetti . CBC Radio Canada speaks at Radio Days Europe

On a totally different level, I was completely blown away by the talk given by Susan Marjetti from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. As the manager of the local talk radio station in Toronto (probably one of the world’s most culturally diverse communities), she explained how she and her team transformed their radio station over the last decade.

Like a lot of public service broadcasters in a similar position, the on-air line-up and listenership of the radio station remained older, mostly male, and mostly caucasian. Their goal was to transform their radio station into something which more closely resembled the city in which they were based. It wasn’t anything about being “politically correct” or anything like that, she argued, saying there was a strong business case about meeting one of the public service goals of the public broadcaster (to broadcast to all Canadians), and about growing their audience in the future. “If we don’t get this right, we’ll be a precious emblem to a dying elite”, one of her colleagues said to her.

Ben Cooper, BBC Radio 1 controller speaks at Radio Days Europe

Ben Cooper, BBC Radio 1 controller speaks at Radio Days Europe

When they began transforming their on-air line-up (including regular guests) with a younger, more culturally diverse people this initially led a fall in ratings. But within twelve months, they went from sixth place in the ratings to number one, and they’ve been number one for fifty surveys in a row, she explained proudly.

She’s a great speaker, and I found it personally very inspiring to hear her speak, as it’s something I also feel very passionately about.

When it came to the discussion about digital radio, including DAB+, I admit, I had mixed feelings. At times I was inspired, other times I felt a little sad. Sometimes I felt it was almost as if the industry I’ve loved all of my life was “begging” for its future survival. I sometimes felt as though we were “pleading” with the public, government and manufacturers to convert to digital radio to ensure our industry can survive, as more and more people use smart phones, computers, televisions and so on, to access our content. I sometimes feel like we need to stop saying “it’s better quality sound” and emphasising all of the technical reasons why we should switch to digital and spend more and more time saying, “hey we’ve got the best damn radio you’ll ever hear”, emphasising how great the content is, and can be.

James Dickie, Research Manager, Other Lines of Enquiry, speaks at Radio Days Europe

James Dickie, Research Manager, Other Lines of Enquiry, speaks at Radio Days Europe

On the positive, there was good news about the future of digital radio in cars (two more manufacturers announced digital radio as standard in new vehicles), and about high digital radio penetration rates in a number of countries. On the negative, I noticed how high digital radio penetration rates were in many parts of Europe (ninety percent of the population of Germany can listen to digital radio) compared with Australia where it remains limited to five capital cities (with trials only in Canberra and Darwin).

In Norway and Denmark they have firm plans for switching off their analogue radio network, and in the UK, one of the speakers mentioned a likely announcement towards the end of the year. I was particularly interested in the discussion about the analogue switch-off in Norway, as, like Australia, the geography of the country (mountains) and the low population density (isolation), significantly increases the challenges involved.

It was, overall, a really interesting day which I enjoyed very much.

Here are some of my tweets and retweets from throughout the day which covered the key things which I found interesting…

Lord Mayor of Berlin reception at Radio Days Europe

Lord Mayor of Berlin reception at Radio Days Europe

18 Mar James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Opening night of #rde13 Radio Days Europe in Berlin tonight. Lots of fun.

19h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Caroline graze spoke of radio station dating app too bring listeners together and to get demographics of audience. #rde13

18h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Fans not listeners key to Hamish and Andy success says sam cavanagh at #rde13

18h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
BBC 1 & 4 skew twitter over Facebook in socmed interactions acc to research at #rde13 and wonder if same applies to other similar stns

18h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Danish research shows radio audience atten span drifts 4mins into segment then declines rapidly for both music and talk. Being human. #rde13

17h James Cridland ‏@JamesCridland
Great time at #rde13 – @samcav does an excellent talk, described by a senior programmer as “best radio talk I’ve seen in five years”

17h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
RT @Radio_Bingen RT @RADIOSZENE: ABC Australien hat einen intetessanten Kanal “Back to Vinyl” http://ow.ly/1TGomF #RDE13

17h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
RT @ronez ABC Extra, programmes originaux multiplateforme par la radio australienne (sports, musicaux, événementiels). #RDE13

17h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
RT @mxlabswiss O’Brien ABC about POP UP radios in Ausralia and Vinyl shows at #rde13 pic.twitter.com/45G79jKZ5c

17h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
RT @cbollert #RDE13 James O’Brien #ABC / @triplej talks about digital in Australia. Especially about ABC extra and #popupradio.

16h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Town hall meetings important part of CBC Toronto diversity strategy. #rde13

16h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Largest underserved communities strategy more than ethnicity for CBC radio. #rde13

16h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Host changes can take a while but prog changes quick in CBC diversity strategy. #rde13

15h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
What radio looks like on a mobile phone became our obsession says BBC r 1 controller. #rde13

15h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
TV has replaced radio as b/g noise says BBC r1 controller but pops for radio in IPTV. #rde13
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14h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Visuals and interactions key to 18-24 radio future as smartphones and tablets preferred account to euro research at #rde13

13h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Norway with low pop density replacing FM with dab+ by 2017. #rde13 pic.twitter.com/rhQgMtKSj5

13h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Norway digital radio criteria for analogue switchoff inc. Web podcasts etc. Currently 30% with 50% goal. #rde13

13h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Today Audi announced digital radio as standard in UK cars following BMW. #rde13

13h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Digital radio UK listening 50% and 5hrs per week longer than analogue. #rde13

12h UK Radioplayer ‏@ukradioplayer
We’re very proud to announce that Norway are adopting our UK Radioplayer system. The world’s waking up to the power of partnership #rde13

7h James O’Brien ‏@JamesOBrienAU
Bit surprised smoking still allowed in bars in Berlin. Arrived home tonight STINKING of cigarettes.

Oh, and as you might have noted from these tweets, I presented a paper too.

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